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I enjoyed your article Joshua. Quite a journey. I too attended Southern Baptist church, then seriously explored Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, and eventually settled into an Anglican Church, which unfortunately experienced leadership scandal and was closed down. I was seeking communion with belief in real presence of Christ in the bread and wine. But I ran into problems with Roman Catholic Church that excluded non-RC from receiving bread and wine, which is hurtful because RC is really saying anyone who is not RC is not a real Christian. I agree with you regarding unscriptural problems with papal authority.

I really loved many things about EO liturgy experience, but they also are exclusive regarding communion bread and wine. So any Christian who is not EO is not a real Christian. Requiring membership of a church denomination for salvation is unscriptural. Our salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus. Also, I found the excessive focus on kissing of icons and pressure to do so to be an unnecessary show of external ritualistic behavior.

Regardless of church denomination, including RC, EO, Anglican, Reformed Southern Baptist, etc, I have found and met church pastors and priests who are all fallible, all to human, rigid, judgmental, and emotionally unhealthy as any other human being. A huge problem I see is that the False Self has never been crucified, or at least daily denied, even though the Old Self was. The lack of understanding between these two concepts still remains a reality in the collective unconscious of current state of the majority of the religious world.

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Wow this was intense. Thank you for sharing your story. I’m really only familiar with Protestant or secular to orthodox conversion stories. Many Protestants who become orthodox have similar stories, I know a family at my parish where both the mother and father were theologians who converted. And as well, also a Catholic deacon who converted and became an orthodox deacon at my parish.

My own journey was not theological at all. So it’s valuable to get insight into what it might be like for someone to be overwhelmed and plagued by “theological uncertainty.” This is a matter that’s very opaque to me, because as an evangelical I didn’t think about theology at all, and as an orthodox Christian I submit myself to the church in love and trust.

One thing I want to share—a prayer I love in addition to the Jesus prayer is this really simple orthodox one: “lord I believe, help my unbelief.”

It helps me a lot I think when I’m experiencing doubt, mostly because I know that even if I doubt God will overcome those doubts by His grace, as you said. To pray this is both to acknowledge that and to ask Him to help us.

And one last thing if you’re opening to answering: what were the doctrines that made you decide you couldn’t go back to the Baptist church? I don’t know what they teach so I’m curious to hear.

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